Those Uncerty Thirties (with Kayleen Schaefer!) and Fitness Influencer Vibes
Something we’re quite sure of: what makes a good in-app workout instructor. Something we’re quite unsure about: what our thirties are meant to look like in this day ‘n age. Kayleen Schaefer has many, many thoughts on the latter. Tune in and then dig into her new book But You’re Still So Young (yes, incredible title).
Something we’re quite sure of: what makes a good in-app workout instructor. Something we’re quite unsure about: what our thirties are meant to look like in this day ‘n age. Kayleen Schaefer has many, many thoughts on the latter. Tune in and then dig into her new book But You’re Still So Young (yes, incredible title).
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The on-demand fitness instructors who leap over the ridiculously high bar we’ve set: Melissa Wood of Melissa Wood Health, Coach Chris Bennett of the Nike Run Club app (a previous podcast guest!), Adriene Mishler of Yoga with Adriene (see also: this NYT Mag profile and this Reductress post about Benji the dog), and Robin Arzon and Matty Maggiacomo of the Peloton app.
Read Kayleen Schaefer’s wonderful But You’re Still So Young! And if you haven’t already gobbled up Text Me When You Get Home, maybe it’s your next book-club pick?
A few of Kayleen’s “You May Also Like” recs: The New Better Off by Courtney E. Martin, Anne Helen Petersen’s Buzzfeed piece on burnout and her book Can’t Even, and Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert (also endorsed by Bad on Paper).
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Still Not Having Kids and Our Latest Romance-Novel Crush
Breaking news: Erica is still not having kids—but she does have some fresh thoughts on the subject, especially as many of her pals tackle parenthood. And! If you’d like a shot before your chaser, let us tell you all about The Roommate, porny and praise-worthy.
Breaking news: Erica is still not having kids—but she does have some fresh thoughts on the subject, especially as many of her pals tackle parenthood. And! If you’d like a shot before your chaser, let us tell you all about The Roommate, porny and praise-worthy.
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If you need some STEAM, get yourself a copy of The Roommate by Rosie Dannan (and it’s spinoff The Intimacy Experiment, out in April).
Relevant having-kids eps of this very podcast: Our original “On Choosing—and Not Choosing—Motherhood” convo and Claire’s take on new mom life and motherhood, one year in.
The piece Erica wrote for Refinery29 about deciding not to have kids and the one Grace Atwood wrote for her site The Stripe.
The installment of Anne Helen Petersen’s Culture Study newsletter that we reference (so good in general, this newsletter).
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What Healthy Comfort Food Means to Julia Turshen. And a Snack Taste Test!
If you’re not already a devotee of Julia Turshen and her cookbooks—her latest, Simply Julia, is out next week!—well, consider this your initiation into the fan club. We’re talking with her about “healthy” and “comfort”—loaded food words, for certain!—and because we’re geniuses who knew this topic would make us hungry, we’re starting things off with a snack taste test.
If you’re not already a devotee of Julia Turshen and her cookbooks—her latest, Simply Julia, is out next week!—well, consider this your initiation into the fan club. We’re talking with her about “healthy” and “comfort”—loaded food words, for certain!—and because we’re geniuses who knew this topic would make us hungry, we’re starting things off with a snack taste test.
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Ready for our chip chat? We’re chomping on Annie Chun’s Seaweed Crisps Go-Chu-Jang (perhaps with this miso dip), Beanfields Vegan Cracklins Chile Limón (not to be confused with Snacklins), and Lesser Evil Power Curls Fiery Hot (see also: its Paleo Puff cousin).
Julia Turshen’s cookbooks—collect ‘em all: Simply Julia (her new hit), Small Victories, Now & Again, and Feed the Resistance. She’s also co-written gems like In Bibi’s Kitchen, with Hawa Hassan, and The Hot Bread Kitchen Cookbook, with Jessamyn Waldman Rodriguez.
Dive into her Equity at the Table database project and her Keep Calm and Cook On podcast, too.
A few of Julia’s favorite people in food: Mavis-Jay Sanders and Sicily Sierra Johnson, who run Food + People, Pati Jinich, who hosts the PBS cooking show Pati’s Mexican Table, and Yewande Komolafe, whose recipes Julia trusts always.
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Coping Tips from Dr. Ben Michaelis and Perfect Gifts for Your Snake-Sitter
What a pleasure it is to bring you all Dr. Ben Michaelis, who we think of as ⅓ management coach, ⅓ therapist, and ⅓ couples counselor (at least in our case). We’ve been seeing this guy—together!—for five-ish years, and he’s helped us to navigate much in our lives, professional and personal. Speaking of navigating, we’re kicking-off the episode by answering an age-old question: “What sort of thank-you gift do I get my snake-sitter?!”
What a pleasure it is to bring you all Dr. Ben Michaelis, who we think of as ⅓ management coach, ⅓ therapist, and ⅓ couples counselor (at least in our case). We’ve been seeing this guy—together!—for five-ish years, and he’s helped us to navigate much in our lives, professional and personal. Speaking of navigating, we’re kicking-off the episode by answering an age-old question: “What sort of thank-you gift do I get my snake-sitter?!”
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Oooh, boy, did we get a good gifting request: “Thank you for your friend who fed your pet snake weekly for 6 weeks. They like Phish.” Here’s where we landed: Fishman Donut Round Jigsaw Puzzle, Island Bamboo spoon sets and salt cellars, Na Nin incense cones, Boy Smells Kush candle, Debbie Carlos Curl Pipe (from Tetra), Edie Parker Flower stash case, Areaware Snake Block, Lorien Stern snake wall-hanging ceramic or plush snake sculpture (or bucket hat or hoodie), Ferm Living Mr. Snake cushion or fruiticana snake, Chen Chen and Kai Williams serpent lighter keychain, and Willa Heart snake prints and placemats.
Here’s that snake opening a door video you were hoping for.
Check out more on Dr. Ben Michaelis and his work and dig into his book Your Next Big Thing: Ten Small Steps to Get Moving and Get Happy.
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Baby-Registry Recs and Craigslist Scams
What an educational ep: Erica teaches Claire about Craigslist scams, and Claire schools Erica on the wild, wild world of baby registries. (Can you want a leopard-print carrier and not an infant??)
What an educational ep: Erica teaches Claire about Craigslist scams, and Claire schools Erica on the wild, wild world of baby registries. (Can you want a leopard-print carrier and not an infant??)
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That cashier’s check Craigslist scam!! Vox has an excellent explainer “Why Cashier’s Checks Are Part of So Many Online Scams," and there’s a WalletHub guide to various cashier’s check scams and where to report them.
Consider donating to organizations like the National Diaper Bank Network or National Birth Equity Collaborative if you have the resources to be very persnickety about your baby registry.
Baby chairs and other places to put little people: BabyBjörn Bouncer (and its design-y comp: Betón Baby Bouncer), Charlie Crane Levo Rocker, Askr & Embla Sleep Pod (a prettier Dock-a-Tot), and Boppy with a custom cover (related: My Brest Friend).
Sleeping solutions: The Snoo (you can rent them!), Moses baskets (like one from Kind Label in a Jolly Jumper stand), cribs like the Ikea Sniglar or the Babyletto Hudson or ones from Nestig or the (very fancy) Kalon Caravan, and pack ‘n plays from Guava Lotus or Graco or BabyBjörn.
Baby carriers: Colugo Carrier, Sakura Bloom Ring Sling (an alt to a Solly Baby Wrap), BabyBjörn Baby Carrier Mini, and the very fashion-y Artipoppe.
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Media Right Now with Delia Cai and the Whole30 Whole Thing
The two of us think and talk a lot about ~the state of media~, and we figured it was about time we discussed it with a genuine expert. Enter stage left: the thoughtful and incredibly incisive Delia Cai, who writes the newsletter we always open Deez Links (and is a growth and trends editor at BuzzFeed by day—so clearly she’s on top of all the things.) We also figured it was ‘bout time to discuss Claire’s experience with Whole30, at least as it relates to their insurrection content.
The two of us think and talk a lot about ~the state of media~, and we figured it was about time we discussed it with a genuine expert. Enter stage left: the thoughtful and incredibly incisive Delia Cai, who writes the newsletter we always open Deez Links (and is a growth and trends editor at BuzzFeed by day—so clearly she’s on top of all the things.) We also figured it was ‘bout time to discuss Claire’s experience with Whole30, at least as it relates to their insurrection content.
The linkage:
You can find the Whole30 insurrection statement right over here (the Jan. 7 post).
The BuzzFeed article titled “The Small-Town America I Love Is The One I See At Football Games” that first led Erica to Delia (shout-out Dunlap High School—go eagles!).
You gotta, gotta sign for Delia’s newsletter Deez Links if you care about media (or good TikToks) at all. An adjacent, relevant newsletter: Today in Tabs.
For more on Substack, dive into Clio Chang’s “The Substackerati” piece for CJR (and its discussion of Patrice Peck’s Coronavirus News for Black Folks newsletter) as well as Anna Wiener’s “Is Substack the Media Future We Want?” for The New Yorker.
Writers Delia always reads: Taylor Lorenz, Doreen St. Félix, and Hua Hsu.
Two Deez Links installments we discuss: Delia's piece about a profile of Nick Quah and Hot Pod and a very LOLZy one about fantasy media-men beefs.
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The Comedic Gifts of R. Eric Thomas...and the Absurdism of Toddlerdom
To answer the question of many a comedy-club promoter in Times Square: Yes, we do love to laugh. And one sure-fire way to get us howling is reading anything written by R. Eric Thomas—or chatting with the man himself, turns out. But up first: some toddler funny business.
To answer the question of many a comedy-club promoter in Times Square: Yes, we do love to laugh. And one sure-fire way to get us howling is reading anything written by R. Eric Thomas—or chatting with the man himself, turns out. But up first: some toddler funny business.
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A few toddler-relevant pieces of content: Bunheads by Misty Copeland, PBS’s Remarkable Rabbits, and No-Drama Discipline by Daniel J. Siegel and Tina Payne Bryson.
Please consume all the R. Eric Thomas you can! His memoir Here for It and the book he co-authored with Helena Andrews-Dyer about Maxine Waters, Reclaiming Her Time! His wonderful newsletter! All the past installments of his Elle.com column “Eric Reads the News!” (And stay tuned for much more, obviously.)
Some of Eric’s memorist icons: David Rakoff (Fraud specifically), David Sedaris (see also: this Hugh Hamrick profile), Samantha Irby, and John Paul Brammer and his forthcoming book Hola Papi.
What pop culture Eric’s consumed recently: Umbrella Academy, The Secret Lives of Church Ladies by Deesha Philyaw, Broadcast News, When Harry Met Sally (related: The Rewatchables podcast), Bridgerton, Veep, What We Do in the Shadows, The Office of Historical Corrections by Danielle Evans, and Nothing to See Here by Kevin Wilson. Claire and Erica would like to talk about Gremlins and Erin Brockovich also.
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Introducing the Thingies, What Your Awards Season Was Missing. Welks!
We are nothing if not (professional) enthusiasts, and we figured it was ‘bout time that we shared some products we think are best in category—from brow pencils to baby bouncers, dental floss to pasta. Join us for the Thingies! In the future, we hope our awards programming includes a red-carpet pre-show.
We are nothing if not (professional) enthusiasts, and we figured it was ‘bout time that we shared some products we think are best in category—from brow pencils to baby bouncers, dental floss to pasta. Join us for the Thingies! In the future, we hope our awards programming includes a red-carpet pre-show.
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Welks!!!!! What Urban Dictionary and Mindy Kaling have to contribute.
The divisive Danny Meyer tweet about Häagen-Dazs vanilla. (Sir did write the book Setting the Table that we like a lot.)
The Grub Street bucatini shortage article by Rachel Handler—the sort of coverage HDVB deserves.
The inaugural Thingies winners!!! Hellman’s, Heinz, HDVB (duh, duh, duh). The Stutterheim raincoat. Dr. Tung’s Smart Floss. BabyBjörn bouncer. Marvy Uchida Le Pen. Uniqlo HeatTech (the regular and ultra-warm leggings, the turtlenecks). Sania’s Brow Bar pencil (and service!). Garofalo gluten-free pasta (casarecce specifically). Feetures running socks. Artifact Uprising (see: the baby board book, the layflat photo album, the baby book). Soapwalla deodorant (original or sensitive skin).
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A Mental-Health Check-In Feels Right Right Now
Let’s talk about depression—how we feel when it comes on and how we deal. Let’s talk resources, from books to therapy platforms to IG follows, for anxiety, grief, bipolar disorder, and postpartum disorders. Let’s just talk about mental health more in general, right?
Let’s talk about depression—how we feel when it comes on and how we deal. Let’s talk resources, from books to therapy platforms to IG follows, for anxiety, grief, bipolar disorder, and postpartum disorders. Let’s just talk about mental health more in general, right?
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The things that have warmed our hearts a smidge during all of our time at home: a remote-control light dimmer and a calamansi tree (see also: calamansi seltzer from Sanzo + cocktails from Zuzu).
Podcasts featuring two people talking that feel kinda like having company: Jam Session, Who? Weekly, Home Cooking, Bad on Paper, Still Processing, and Taking Hugh for Granted.
Not-new fiction that’s provided Erica with a genuine escape recently: I Capture the Castle by Dodie Smith (1948), Mrs. Bridge by Evan Connell (1955), Kindred by Octavia Butler (1979), and Heartburn by Nora Ephron (1983).
Mental-health resources! Some books: The Mindful Way Through Depression by Jon Kabat-Zinn; Comfortable with Uncertainty, When Things Fall Apart, and The Pocket Pema Chodron by Pema Chodron; and An Unquiet Mind by Kay Redfield Jamison.
Articles: "The Hardest Two Months of My Life" from A Cup of Jo, "How to Help Someone With Depression" from New York mag, and "How Not to Say the Wrong Thing" from LA Times.
Podcasts: Hey, Cool Life! with Mary H.K. Choi, Unlocking Us with Brené Brown, The Hilarious World of Depression, and Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations episode with Jon Kabat-Zinn.
Instagram follows: Jessica Clemons, MD, Emily McDowell, Crystal Anderson, Sad Girls Club, Brown Girl Therapy, The Loveland Foundation, and The Nap Ministry.
Meditation: the Insight Timer app, which is a marketplace of sorts, and UCLA Mindful Awareness Research Center Guided Meditations.
For therapy, check out Talkspace and BetterHelp for digital/telemedicine options and Alma and Real, which are about streamlining the process of finding a therapist you connect with.
If you or someone you know is considering suicide, call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 800-273-8255.
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Rice, Hospital Go Bags, and, Uh, What Exactly We Do for Work These Days
Let’s kick off 2021 with a true grab bag of an episode! Because who else will tell you allllll the things they’re making/eating with rice, why they’re fascinated by hospital go bag content, and how exactly they’ve been making money over the last year, all in one go??
Let’s kick off 2021 with a true grab bag of an episode! Because who else will tell you allllll the things they’re making/eating with rice, why they’re fascinated by hospital go bag content, and how exactly they’ve been making money over the last year, all in one go??
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Rice—it’s nice! Right now, we’re feeling sushi rice for everything, Chrissy Tiegen’s coconut rice, Vigo saffron yellow rice, and Samin Nosrat’s Persian-ish rice.
And 2020’s awards for most fascinating and entertaining hospital go bag reveals go to…@nelliediamond and @hannahbronfman!! Also: Here’s the vid that inspired Claire’s, which even has a sequel.
This Eberjey PJ jumpsuit (which we both love in just, like, regular life) is actually a worthy hospital go bag inclusion.
The affiliate networks we use (you know, if you run a business that’s thinking about these things!): ShopStyle Collective, RewardStyle, ShareASale, and Bookshop.org.
A few other newsletter / micro media businesses we take inspiration from: The Ann Friedman Weekly, Why Is This Interesting?, and Courtney E. Martin.
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Dumplings as an Aesthetic and Alisha Ramos on Staying In
We’ve been following the career of Alisha Ramos since she was in college—so, um before she technically had a career. If you haven’t spotted her two businesses Girls’ Night In, a newsletter ‘n community for women who love to stay in, and Whiled, a line of cheery, artsy puzzles, everywhere you turn recently, then your pandemic experience has been very different from ours. But before we get into it all with her: Let us discuss how dumplings (the sweatpants of food?) became such a vibe.
We’ve been following the career of Alisha Ramos since she was in college—so, um before she technically had a career. If you haven’t spotted her two businesses Girls’ Night In, a newsletter ‘n community for women who love to stay in, and Whiled, a line of cheery, artsy puzzles, everywhere you turn recently, then your pandemic experience has been very different from ours. But before we get into it all with her: Let us discuss how dumplings (the sweatpants of food?) became such a vibe.
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DUMPLINGS. In handbag form from Simon Miller, Elleme, and Emily Levine. In cartoon form thanks to Wonton in a Million. As sculpture in porcelain by Stephanie H. Shih and felt by Dumpling Mart. As a light, an ornament, and, hey, a potsticker pipe.
Alisha Ramos is up to so very much—she’s the founder of Girls’ Night In and Whiled, and she’s a very committed Swiftie and gardener on IG.
Speaking of Swifties: a conspiracy rabbithole for you—feel free to search Swiftgron on Tumblr.
The still-very-relevant Stay Home, Take Care resource the GNI team put together at the beginning of quarantine.
For some TikTok ~curation~, follow Aminatou Sow and Zara Rahim...on Instagram.
“Our Shared Unsharing” by Stella Bugbee for The Cut.
A few of Alisha’s head-clearing recs: Wolf Hall by Hilary Mantel, Floret, Monty Don, and The Gardens of Bunny Mellon. Plus one gardening-related one from Erica: Animal, Vegetable, Miracle by Barbara Kingsolver.
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Reading Reckless, Thanking Stacey Abrams, and Talking Grown-Up Books for Kids
We’ve dedicated a helluva lot of our 2020 brain space to 1) the election and 2) romance novels. Who sits at the intersection of those two realms? American hero Stacey Abrams, who has written eight—eight!—of the latter under the name Selena Montgomery. We’re talking about one of them, Reckless, today. Another thing we’re getting into: books that aren’t technically for kids but that kids can take a lot from. A real page-turner of an ep!
We’ve dedicated a helluva lot of our 2020 brain space to 1) the election and 2) romance novels. Who sits at the intersection of those two realms? American hero Stacey Abrams, who has written eight—eight!—of the latter under the name Selena Montgomery. We’re talking about one of them, Reckless, today. Another thing we’re getting into: books that aren’t technically for kids but that kids can take a lot from. A real page-turner of an ep!
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Three adult books that influenced us growing up: Our Bodies, Ourselves, Life’s 100 Photographs That Changed the World, and The Cake Bible.
Books we endorse having around the house for kids to have access to: Black Futures, Every Person in New York, The Macmillan Visual Dictionary, The Times Comprehensive Atlas of the World, Map: Exploring the World, The Man Behind the Maps, In the Company of Women, D C-T!, and Do It Yourself.
Do you need some Stacey Abrams / Selena Montgomery romance in your life? SURE YA DO. Read Reckless, its sequel Deception, and this very good recent Glamour article by Jenny Singer that explores her novel-writing and its reception over time.
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Black Futures with Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham—Plus BIG Gifts
If, like us, you’ve been following Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham’s work for years ‘n years, you’re going to really relish digging into Black Futures, the sweeping anthology they created together. This week, we’re chatting with the duo about celebrating Blackness, developing a friendship over the course of a creative collaboration, and, um, mispronouncing words. Oh, and before they join us, we’re discussing why really big versions of things make good gifts.
If, like us, you’ve been following Kimberly Drew and Jenna Wortham’s work for years ‘n years, you’re going to really relish digging into Black Futures, the sweeping anthology they created together. This week, we’re chatting with the duo about celebrating Blackness, developing a friendship over the course of a creative collaboration, and, um, mispronouncing words. Oh, and before they join us, we’re discussing why really big versions of things make good gifts.
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You thought we were done with gift ideas? Heck no. 1) a 6- or 12-month gift sub to Secret Menu. 2) DONATIONS! 3) lots of something you know someone already loves. For us, we’re talking jumbo takes on Luxardo cherries, Maldon salt, Fruit Roll-Ups, Oribe Gold Lust Repair & Restore Conditioner, Ghirardelli brownie mix, Tate’s cookies, sriracha, that Kacey Musgraves x Boy Smells candle, and Red Boat fish sauce and salt.
Grab your copy of Black Futures (which, by the way: great gift). To keep up on Jenna and Kimberly’s book tour—and to feel very in-the-know in general—follow both of them on IG: @jennydeluxe and @museummammy respectively.
Black Futures inspirations: The Black Book edited by Toni Morrison, Black Women Writers at Work by Claudia Tate, Losing Ground directed by Kathleen Collins (and just the scope and scale of Kathleen Collins's work broadly), the F series at The Studio Museum in Harlem, and adrienne maree brown (and her book introductions specifically).
Of the SO MANY moments, undertakings, and talents Black Futures delves into, a few this episode touches on: Martine Rose, Black Mama’s Bail Out, and the birth of Black Lives Matter in the Facebook posts of Alicia Garza and Patrisse Cullors.
Gift Guide, Part 2: Teens, Bosses, Brothers, and, Duh, Your Mail Carrier
Welcome to Gift Guide Podcast, the Sequel: Presents Requested. (Can you tell we’re a little slap-happy after recording these eps?) If you haven’t tuned in for part one, here’s the deal: We’ve got lots of ideas from small businesses, many owned by women and BIPOC, (and none from Amazon)—and we have thoughts on organizations to donate to in someone’s honor, too. Are you ready for all the thoughts? Great, let’s get into it. Oh, and if you just can’t get enough, our 2019 installments are here and here.
Welcome to Gift Guide Podcast, the Sequel: Presents Requested. (Can you tell we’re a little slap-happy after recording these eps?) If you haven’t tuned in for part one, here’s the deal: We’ve got lots of ideas from small businesses, many owned by women and BIPOC, (and none from Amazon)—and we have thoughts on organizations to donate to in someone’s honor, too. Are you ready for all the thoughts? Great, let’s get into it. Oh, and if you just can’t get enough, our 2019 installments are here and here.
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BROTHERS!
21 year old brother who has a new passion/major every week. Techie, creative, loves pasta.
Grossy Pelosi merch: This Too Shall Pasta or Live Laugh Lasagna
Designy pasta book: The Silver Spoon or The Geometry of Pasta
Memoirs of people who found/made their own way: Notes from a Young Black Chef by Kwame Onwuachi, Just Kids by Patti Smith, and The Autobiography of Gucci Mane
Subscription to Courier magazine
Little brother, loves foreign affairs, about to graduate from college, very classic taste
Subscription to Stranger’s Guide, The Atlantic, Monocle, or ProPublica
A watch! Todd Snyder x Timex collab or Hodinkee for Swatches.
21 y.o. Lil bro who is way cooler than me. Into the outdoors, vintage jackets, anime.
My 30 y.o. lefty anti-capitalist brother who secretly really likes buying things.
Something Patagonia WornWear ReCrafted or Todd Snyder x L.L. Bean
Leftie merch: Call Your Girlfriend The Scam is Structural Hat or Bernie Sanders Rage Against the Machine T-shirt
Donation to his local mutual aid organization
KIDS!
The 2-year-old that has everything—9 sets of Aunts/Uncles!
A giant, mascot-style costume for an adult to wear—Elmo? Bear?
Kid audio player things: Yoto Player and Tonies
Toy storage: Fabelab bear storage bag and Oh Noo toy wheelbarrow
Donation to National Diaper Bank Project
Kids! Not little but not teens. Bonus for stuff that isn’t tech-based. PLEASE
Cooking thing: Kid in the Kitchen by Melissa Clark or Bella Cucina pastry tart set
Box set of books: Roald Dahl or Puffin in Bloom
Something outdoorsy: Tubbs snowshoes, Hamboard shortboard, or cool roller skates by Chicago Skates, Impala, or Moxi
Tie-dye kit: Horizon Group unicorn tie dye bundle or Tulip tie-dye party
Mary Matson Double Happiness poster (edition of 50, signed and numbered)
TEENS!
Late teen more responsible than me at 30 and already has the lined Birkenstocks.
Olive & June manicure/pedicure system (or just the mani system)
Watercolor sets: Beam Paints, LDBA Palette, Case for Making, or anything from Blick
17-year-old awkward tomboy who has NO opinions on anything she likes
Book that might get her thinking about what she likes/where she’s going: In the Company of Women, Roadtrip Nation’s Roadmap book, Start Where You Are journal, or Is Everyone Hanging Out Without Me? by Mindy Kaling
If she has an iPad: Apple Pencil
BOSSES AND EMPLOYEES!
Design-minded bosses (one male and one female)
Puzzles: Four Point Puzzles, Whiled, and Piecework
Design-y chocolate: Compartes bars or Vesta bonbons
Design-y calendars: 2021 Stendig or Design Letters
Male boss you have a crush on. Should seem to cost about $50 (but ok if it costs more)
Signed book by his fave author: AbeBooks has a very good search tool, and 1stDibs is good for more coffee-table stuff.
Body wash or soap that is just on the cusp of inappropriate—Musgo Real soap on a rope?
Set of two glasses (subtle hint to have a drink together?!): Mia Craft beer glasses, Estelle Colored Glass, or vintage French champagne coupes, maybe with a bottle of something to drink, too.
65-year-old male boss who’s super successful, obsessed with Tesla and health and wellness
Food innovation: Seemore Meats & Veggies sausages or Oishii strawberries
Donation to Partnership for a Healthier America, Back on my Feet, or Fresh Air Fund
If this person is your dad not your boss: Oura ring or Theragun
18 co-workers. I’m their boss.
GRAB BAG!!!
37 weeks pregnant and just want to pick one thing to buy 25 of and call it a day. But what?!
Five-year journal: One Line a Day, Hobonichi 5-year Techno, or Unbound Planner
Plant: Holiday cactus from The Sill or herb collection from Bloomscape
Il Buco Alimentari Sale Fiore or WAJD salt
Planting a tree via Nature Conservancy
Donations to No Kid Hungry or Heifer International
My dog walker who dresses like a Tim Burton character and is 22. $50 - $100
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Something FUN, useful, and a little grown-up for home: Fredericks and Mae cutting board and Areaware table tiles
My mail carrier
Gift card to a coffee shop on your route
Thermos: super classic Stanley one or Zojiruchi ones in more colors
I need special little things for neighbors/mail people/building managers!
Seasonings: Momofuku seasoned salts, Burlap & Barrel spice set, or Westbourne spice trio with recipes
Gift cert for a neighborhood spot that does lunch
OTHER LINKS
Last gift idea, promise: a 6- or 12-month gift sub to Secret Menu.
We are here for all of your thoughts and feedback, always. Get in touch at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq.
On 12/21, we’re going to be chatting about the romance novel Reckless by Selena Montgomery (aka Stacey Abrams). Read with us?
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Gift Guide, Part 1: Dads, Sisters-in-Law, and New Quar Romances
You have gift questions, and we have gift answers! Welcome to part one of our second-annual gift guide, where you’ll find so much cool stuff from small businesses (many run by women and BIPOC!), no Amazon links (but you do you), and thoughts on orgs to donate to, too. Part two is coming next week, and last year’s still-relevant installments are here and here. Now, hope you’re prepared for an outrageously long episode recap...
You have gift questions, and we have gift answers! Welcome to part one of our second-annual gift guide, where you’ll find so much cool stuff from small businesses (many run by women and BIPOC!), no Amazon links (but you do you), and thoughts on orgs to donate to, too. Part two is coming next week, and last year’s still-relevant installments are here and here. Now, hope you’re prepared for an outrageously long episode recap...
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PARENTS!
My mom has requested “a new hobby” for Christmas which has sent me spinning. Any ideas? She’s very artsy and already gardens and writes fiction. Knitting hasn’t worked for her due to her arthritis, and she’s a lifelong hater of kitchen activities, most of the cute gifty hobby kits I’ve seen fall into those categories. Stumped!
Fic & non-fic books that will nudge my parents to the left without them realizing it.
What Unites Us by Dan Rather
Evicted by Matthew Desmond
Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi
Good Talk by Mira Jacob
I need gift ideas for my almost 60-year-old, tech-y, suburban dad. Hasn’t finished reading the books he got for Father’s Day but he loves history. Does a lot of biking on his indoor trainer. He has an Apple Watch but we aren’t allowed to get him AirPods because my mom thinks he’ll accidentally put them through the laundry. He likes food/eating/cooking but had a heart attack 3 years ago so we’re not allowed to do fun things (unless they’re low sodium/cholesterol). Usually I try to find an activity (movie, bike, ride to brewery, etc.) but covid makes that hard. So many restrictions!!
Claire puts her airpods through the laundry all the time and they still work! (Mostly.) But for an alt: Rapha x Bang & Olufsen earphones (made for indoor training—bigger than Airpods).
Subscription to the Peloton app to use with his bike (you don’t need the Peloton bike!)
Smart/wake-up clock: Philips SmartSleep, Loftie
Beer-plus-history book: Pilsner: How the Beer of Kings Changed the World
MasterClass: Doris Kearns Goodwin teaches "U.S. Presidential History and Leadership"
Mom and her husband who just bought a new cottage and are DIY fixing it up. The kitchen and garden are especially yucky!
Online landscaping-design apps like Yardzen or Tilly Design
Gardening stuff: Floral Society, Floret, and Father Rabbit
Tools: MoMA Design Store Rainbow Multi-tool set, FIXR tool, and Bosch Blaze laser measurer
Birdhouse: Andreu Carulla's Bird and Breakfast, Amish cottage
Coffee-table books: The Gardens of Bunny Mellon and More than Just a House by Alex Eagle
Donation to Habitat for Humanity
My Jewish parents who are IMPOSSIBLE to shop for and trying to stop eating sugar.
Popcorn seasoning set: The Spice House or Oaktown Spice Shop
Engraved Masala Dabba from Diaspora Co.
Cookbook: Sweet Laurel or Ottolenghi Flavor
Russ & Daughters tote, tee, hat...in R&D wrapping paper!
My crunchy fire-fighting dog lady MIL.
Donation to BARC Shelter in Brooklyn or her local animal shelter (many have wish lists where you can send dog food, etc!)
Stepmom: hates being cold. She’s always cold. But is entertaining outside now in CA.
Hot water bottle: Amara sheepskin and Chickpea knit
Something for cooking warm entertaining food/drink outside: Boska mini raclette cheese melter and grill, Royal Rose hot toddy mixers, or FLÎKR Fire personal concrete fireplace
Flamingo Estate candles—scents like Roma heirloom tomato
SISTERS-IN-LAW!
My sister-in-law is a chic New Yorker and I live in Missoula, Montana. I am a needs-based gifter and she is very much a wants-based gifter. I love to cook, she dabbles in cooking (she’s dairy free) and I think she finds me kind of quaint for my homey ways. She is (and strongly identifies) as an Aries. She is a platinum-rewards-level business traveler and boss babe entrepreneur in the music industry. We get along great, but we literally could not be more different and I am ALWAYS stuck on gifts for her. This year I already gave her a gorgeous coffee table book of NYC night photography that I feel pretty good about, but I need a lifetime stockpile of ideas. Budget is $50- $100
A pretty colored glass thing with utility: a couple Estelle wine glasses, Maison Balzac glasses, carafe, or pitcher, and Laurence Brabant A La Pointe Candle Holder
Anything from Casa Shop—some is new, some is vintage, and it’s all very good.
My very chic sister-in-law who lives in a shoebox in Paris and will need to clear TSA
Glass oil/vinegar decanter: Gary Bodker or Stover Glass
Gilded marble body brush (there’s a mini too!), Kate McLeod body stone
Fancy fashion socks: Darner, Comme Si, and Hansel from Basel
Sister in law who loves to cook. $50 and under
Bamboo steamer + chopsticks + Wing on Wo spoons and chopstick rests (or Pearl River Market)
Trivets: Hawkins cork and Il Buco salvaged antique tile
Home Cooking podcast sweatshirt
Donation to Soul Fire Farm or The Okra Project
HUSBANDS, BOYFRIENDS, AND OTHER UNDEFINED MEN!
A dude who I’ve been seeing since early October. We’re exclusive but not serious….helllp
Slippers: Vince suede and shearling, Yoko Wool
Cool lighter (and possibly candle—Norden??): Tetra slide lighter or Tsubota Pearl tortoise lighter
Nice bottle o’ booze—the one a shelf or two above what he buys himself
A game for two that you can learn to play together: dominos from Printworks, Wolfum, or Fredricks & Mae; 2-in-1 chess/checkers Set from Ridley’s or MoMA
Fiance! Together 8 years, postponed wedding. Xmas AND his bday SAME WEEK!
A piece of art—maybe decide to pick it out together for Xmas (and then you only have to shop for his bday): Picture Room or Absolut Art
You could even reach out to an artist you like on IG and ask about commissions!
Custom neon sign with something you two say or your initials : Yellowpop or Brite Lite
Something sentimental framed via The Heirloomist
A 35-year-old man who loves sports, his dog, his Jeep, the Cubs and classic music.
Dog bed: Dusen Dusen or Found My Animal
A 37-year-old suburban dad who misses dance parties and loves the Book Review
Turntable and mixer
FRIENDS!
My long-distance bestie and I turned 30 this year and we’d originally planned on going on a trip together and getting welded gold bracelets as some grown-up version of friendship bracelets. However, THESE TIMES(™). So now she’s moving from Toronto (same country) to New Zealand (different hemisphere! Different continent!). We thought we’d do some sort of big co-gift! Pertinent details for your brainstorming pleasure: She’s a Capricorn (reluctantly) and I’m an extremely Pisces Pisces (love 2 cry). Budget is up to $200ish. Needs to be mildly packable considering she has to get it to NZ somehow along with the rest of her earthly possessions. Needs to ship to Canada. LOVE YOU!
Fancy pair of stud earrings—you each take one. Or singles of White/Space birthstone studs.
Catbird smallest love letter charm or tiniest key charm that you can get engraved
Some sort of art/print: Tappan and Uprise Art
Group text friends
A little food thing: Rice & Miso Everyday soup ball things (if in Brooklyn!); Copper Cow Coffee Vietnamese-style pour-over, Kusmi Tea set with 12 diff flavors, or Sakara popcorn trio
A mask or mask chain that’s a little more *special*: Lizzie Fortunato, Diarrablu, Injuri, Baggu
Porcelain fortune cookies that you can slip a fortune/wish for them for 2021 into
An ornament related to an inside joke
Three Potato Four key tags, specifically the "thank you for being a friend" one
GRAB BAG!!!
My great-grandma who lives across the country and has never met my baby, because COVID
Calendar with pics of your baby: Artifact Uprising brass easel and Parabo Press classic desk cal
Locket with pic of your baby: Catbird (can be engraved!)
People whose hobbies are “going for walks in the neighborhood.”
Fanny pack: Tory Sport color-block, Baggu, or Beklina ribbed leather
Hiking/all-weather boots: Bernardo Winnie
Puffer scarf: Echo, Eileen Fisher, or Patagonia NanoPuff Scarf
Someone who hates things/prefers experiences, but with Covid it’s hard to experience!
Online cooking class: Sonoko Sakai, Goldbelly Live! Cook-Alongs, League of Kitchens, Momofuku, and Ole & Obrigado.
Things to enjoy the experience of winter: Yaktrax, Crescent Moon eva foam snowshoes, or cross-country ski lessons
Merch from favorite restaurant/hotel/place they’ve traveled to
Games: Ridley’s Card Games, Actually Curious, Lacorsa Grand Prix Board Game, Maharam Memory Game, or Helvetiq Matchmaster or SixStix
OTHER LINKS
You know what else makes a great gift—a digital stocking stuffer, if you will? A sub to Secret Menu.
Do you have other ideas and just thoughts in general to share? Hit us up at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and/or @athingortwohq.
On 12/21, we’re going to be talking about the romance novel Reckless by Selena Montgomery (aka Stacey Abrams). Join us for a read-along!
Running a Record Label With Sam Valenti IV...and Eating Artichokes With Us
Here we are, asking the important questions, including “What’s it like to start a record label and run it for 20 years?” and “Who in their right mind decided to eat an artichoke for the first time?” Sam Valenti IV, behind the very compelling Ghostly International, has all the answers to our first query, and we don’t think we’ll ever really get to the heart (heh) of our second.
Here we are, asking the important questions, including “What’s it like to start a record label and run it for 20 years?” and “Who in their right mind decided to eat an artichoke for the first time?” Sam Valenti IV, behind the very compelling Ghostly International, has all the answers to our first query, and we don’t think we’ll ever really get to the heart (heh) of our second.
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Best use of an Instant Pot: cookin’ artichokes.
Oddly enthusiastic endorsement: vintage Majorcan and Portuguese artichoke plates.
A couple good ways to put a can/jar of artichokes to good use: sardine pasta and back-pocket canned salad.
Dig into Sam Valenti’s Ghostly International—both the musical artists (including the label’s very first, Matthew Dear) and the products. Also, follow Ghostly’s playlists—their “At Work” one in particular.
A few Brooklyn record stores worthy of Sam’s fandom: Rough Trade, Academy Records, and Captured Tracks Shop.
When Sam’s looking to discover new music, he can always count on Buy Music Club, Blackbandcamp.info, and Numero Group to deliver.
AND! A handful of other things we talked about: Blue Note Records: Beyond the Notes, That Thing You Do!, The Last Dance, and the podcast How Long Gone.
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Some Holiday Shopping Thoughts and Weirdo Wine Pairings with Vanessa Price
Is this the beginning of one very strange holiday season to cap off one very strange year? It’s starting to feel like it, and we have some ~initial thoughts~ on how to wrap your head around gifts and a whole bunch o’ thoughts from Vanessa Price—who co-wrote the wonderful book Big Macs and Burgundy—on pairing wine with the things your actually eat, including the last of the leftover Halloween candy and whatever Thanksgiving dinner looks like in 2020.
Is this the beginning of one very strange holiday season to cap off one very strange year? It’s starting to feel like it, and we have some ~initial thoughts~ on how to wrap your head around gifts and a whole bunch o’ thoughts from Vanessa Price—who co-wrote the wonderful book Big Macs and Burgundy—on pairing wine with the things your actually eat, including the last of the leftover Halloween candy and whatever Thanksgiving dinner looks like in 2020.
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Gift guide eps are coming up!! If there are people you want us to shop for, tell us everything about them at 833-632-5463, podcast@athingortwohq.com, and @athingortwohq.
Buy Big Macs and Burgundy, the book Vanessa Price co-wrote with our pal Adam Laukhuf. P.S., it also makes a great gift.
Vanessa’s column for New York mag that led to the book—including that first Sour Patch Kids installment and the very trying s’mores one.
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Lani Halliday’s Booming Pandemic Baked Goods and the Third-Party Hello
You can only comfort yourself with so many baked goods, it seems, but we’ve found a workaround: We’re putting them in our ears instead of our mouths. What a joy it was to sit down with Lani Halliday, who is making the best inclusive pastries around and unveiled her first physical outpost of Brutus Bakeshop during the pandemic. Yes: She’s very bold, and we’re very obsessed.
You can only comfort yourself with so many baked goods, it seems, but we’ve found a workaround: We’re putting them in our ears instead of our mouths. What a joy it was to sit down with Lani Halliday, who is making the best inclusive pastries around and unveiled her first physical outpost of Brutus Bakeshop during the pandemic. Yes: She’s very bold, and we’re very obsessed.
The linkage:
If you’re in NYC, grab Lani Halliday’s baked goods at Brutus Bakeshop in Crown Heights (and get some amazing New Mexican food from Eric See’s Ursula while you’re there!). If you’re anywhere else, buy her (vegan, GF, soy-free) miso chocolate chip cookies on the internet and keep your eyes peeled for her pop tarts and more, more, more.
More on the Independent Restaurant Coalition—um, 11 million people in the U.S. are independent restaurant employees!
Friends, KIT. You can get us at 833-632-5463 and @athingortwohq any ol’ time.
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Who Needs a Distraction?? We Have the Grab Bag Just for You.
Yeah, so, it’s gonna be a real week, and if you’re interested in escaping the tweets, push alerts, and polling data for a few, we have some celeb gossip, book recs, and sweaters to cozy up to.
Yeah, so, it’s gonna be a real week, and if you’re interested in escaping the tweets, push alerts, and polling data for a few, we have some celeb gossip, book recs, and sweaters to cozy up to.
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The very best celeb gossip sources, if you ask us: E! News IG stories, Jam Session, Deux Moi, Gossip Time, The Shade Room, Who? Weekly, Bossip, and Just Jared Jr.
The couple Claire’s shipping: Harry Styles and Tracee Ellis Ross. This pic + this clip. Believe what you want. And just read The Idea of You already if you haven’t.
And, now for beliebing: Erica is intrigued with Justin and Hailey Bieber’s domestic life. This post and this post and a Facebook Watch thing called Baking with the Biebers. Somehow related: Levain Bakery cookies.
Two books that are distracting and immersive (but not light!): The Death of Vivek Oji by Akwaeke Emezi and Leave the World Behind by Rumaan Alam (hear Rumaan on a 2018 ep of our pod, too!).
Gang, it’s sweater weather. Brands we love: Demylee, Jenni Kayne, Alex Mill, Acme Studios, Babaà, Ply-Knits, Leret Leret, Ryan Roche, Sézane, Mijeong Park, and Atelier Delphine.
Have something to share? Call us: 833-632-5463. Love those VMs.
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Breaking Beauty and Baby Vanity Sizing
We love hot industry intel and gossip! Of all industries, really! And when it comes to the land of hyaluronic acid, celeb makeup lines, and derm backlash, no one gives it better than Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins of the Breaking Beauty Podcast. But before we go deeeeeep down that rabbithole, we need to answer one pressing question: What looks will Cam be working for fall 2020?!
We love hot industry intel and gossip! Of all industries, really! And when it comes to the land of hyaluronic acid, celeb makeup lines, and derm backlash, no one gives it better than Jill Dunn and Carlene Higgins of the Breaking Beauty Podcast. But before we go deeeeeep down that rabbithole, we need to answer one pressing question: What looks will Cam be working for fall 2020?!
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What’s Cam wearing this fall?! Some combination of babyGap (beware of baby vanity sizing!!!), Petit Bateau, Búho, Emile et Ida, Bobo Choses, Oeuf, Poudre Organic, Lewis, Tinycottons, and Patagonia (this vest!). For these brands and lots more, Claire’s all about scraping the sale sections on Smallable, Scandiborn, and Melijoe. And when it comes to shoes: Native, AF1s, Air Jordans, and Timberlands, scuffed-up ideally.
To get so much more of Jill and Carlene, subscribe to the Breaking Beauty Podcast.
Scientists giving their clean-beauty takes: Dr. Michelle Wong (@labmuffinbeautyscience), Stephen Ko (@kindofstephen), and Jen Novakovich (@theecowell).
Some makeup/beauty things having a pandemic moment: LoveSeen fake lashes, Foreo microcurrent bear, root cover-up powders from Color Wow and Clairol, and Christophe Robin temporary hair color.
Splashy new launches: Rare Beauty by Selena Gomez, Makeup by Mario, One/Size by Patrick Starrr, and Forvr Mood by Jackie Aina.
Skincare ingredients in masks! But of course! Check out The HydraFacial Company's FaceLife copper-infused masks and YoRo Naturals' zinc masks and Masque Bar’s hydrogel masks specifically to wear under PPE.
WOC-owned brands to watch (and founders to follow!): Uoma Beauty, founded by Sharon Chuter, who started #PullUpForChange; Cheekbone Beauty, from the Canadian Indigenous founder Jenn Harper; Ami Colé, which is pre-launch and founded by the Glossier and L'Oréal alum Diarrha N'Diaye. Oh, and the derm Dr. Alexis Stephens, too.
For more on colorism and skin-lightening, check out Priya Rao’s Unfair podcast for Glossy.
Affordable and efficacious skincare: Maelove, Good (Skin) Days, Inn Beauty Project, Everyday Humans, and Versed.
Waterless beauty—COOL. OWA Haircare and aN-Hydra Skincare are making big moves, and we’re big fans of the Odacité Green Ceremony Cleanser.
Companies doing good stuff around refillable packaging and recycling: Terracycle, Tata Harper and their new Waterlock Moisturizer, Kjaer Weis, Clé de Peau Beauté, Charlotte Tilbury, and Native.
The 2020 ingredient: Niacinamide.
Skinfluencers worth following: Caroline Hirons, Skincare by Hyram, DermAngelo, and, but of course, Dr. Sandra Lee (aka Dr. Pimple Popper).
Call us! 833-632-5463! DM us! @athingortwohq! KIT, basically.